marcosolo, 13. Mai 2003 um 20:41:57 MESZ

Govt hits back at Thirayuth

`Twenty years on and he's still dreaming'

Yuwadee Tunyasiri Ampa Santimetaneedol

Thai Rak Thai spokesman Suranan Vejjajiva has countered academic Thirayuth Boonmee's criticism of the government, reaffirming Thailand belongs to the people who have every right to check, criticise, re-elect or oust the Thaksin administration.

He lashed back at the Thammasat University anthropologist, saying he was trying to present his own theories and still dreaming of utopian societies.

On Sunday, Mr Thirayuth said people were being made second-class citizens in their own country, tenants in the house owned by an authoritarian Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra and his Thai Rak Thai party, who paint themselves as providers.

Mr Suranan said it was untrue Mr Thaksin was a dictator, since his government was constitutionally elected and ready to step down if not re-elected.

The power the prime minister was using to fight poverty, drugs and dark influence was constitutional, not power attained through a coup, he said.

ms:(at least one thing where he has an advantage vs George W. Bush who took over in a undoubtful coup or unconstitutionally. But unfortunately another dictator, Adolf Hitler's power was constitutional as well........that's why I can not accept your above reasons at all. History has already proven them wrong.)

Mr Suranan claimed the government always heeded criticism and said it had a clear principle that the country belonged to the people. The prime minister and all MPs were elected to run the country and solve problems.

Like house owners, the people had rights and power to monitor, criticise and expel the government and always had a choice, by voting every four years.

ms: (how can they do so if the mass-media are put under pressure by the government? How to monitor if you are not told the truth and how to critisise if you are immediately silenced?)

``We insist that politics for Thai Rak Thai is participatory politics that the people can take part in political work. But representative politics is also important under the constitution, which is the people's version.

``Any demands for people's participation are right, but there must be mechanisms to meld different views and there must be decision-makers who really represent the people. Thai Rak Thai never uses the people as tools as accused. We think all play leading roles for political development. This is the other side of the coin Ajarn Thirayuth must look at,'' the Thai Rak Thai spokesman said.

``Ajarn Thirayuth is an interesting academic and social observer. He tries to present post-modernism theories, but it is like he was still in the period of romanticism.

``He is still thinking and dreaming like 20 years ago when he was disappointed. Today, he is still dreaming and complaining.''

ms:(Prime minister Taksin has done undoubtfully a few very good things to your society. Nevertheless nobody, I repeat nobody will ever be able to win any war against drugs. This is complete nonsense and pure propaganda to hide some other things... I wish and hope that your Land of the free will become so again otherwise you will have to change the name sooner or later into Thaksinland.)

 

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marcosolo, 11. Mai 2003 um 11:44:52 MESZ

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Date : May 07, 2003 07:58 PM Author : gijoe Subject : RE: RE: PEACEnew there are people in this world that are truly evil. what do you do with evil people? evil people kill people. they don't care about

other people's desire for peace.

most people who want peace don't want to address the problem that evil people pose.

what can you do?

..for sure, you cannot just do nothing. evil people will just continue their killing believing nobody will do anything.

did you know that every year during clinton's administration, terrorists committed terrorist acts directed towards america. ..and

clinton didn't do anything.

maybe if clinton had did something, september 11 wouldn't have happened.

bush did the right thing going to war. he stomped out the evil.

the vatican and the pope should realize this.

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marcosolo I felt personally offended. How can one be so stupid? my response on 11.5.03:

evil seems to be the only thing we can finally agree on.

Now the question arises where evil feels most comfortable and at home. If you would not be completely blinded by the brainwashing official Bush-administration statements & -lies and would instead open your mind & imagination horizon for just a little bit, maybe even you would start to realise that people dividing the world into good and bad. Either you are with us or against us, do not have much imagination nor planning for multicultural peaceful co-existence.

If such a coward who escaped years ago the Vietnam war (which would mean for every normal US man, not being the son of Mr. Bush senior, years of imprisonment), shows up a decade later in uniform as the acting commander of all forces, one has to start to think of how much to rely on his own words.

This man will lead the United States of America into the deepest recession you ever saw. If you don't stop him soon he will be named in history later in a line with Pompejus burning Rome and will be made personally responsible for the grounding of the United States of America.....

If you do not believe me, dream on......

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another one from earlier:

Date : Apr 21, 2003 04:46 PM Author : marcosolo (mark@marcosolo.org) Subject : RE: RE: WTC and pentagon attacks Your estimate of 90% must have shrinked by now since the Irak war reports. Do you remember George Orwell? "All the tyrannies of the past were half hearted and inefficient.. Part of the reason for this was that in the past no governement had the power to keep it's citizens under constant surveillance. The invention of print, however, made it easier to manipulate puplic opinion and the film and the radio carried the process further. With the development of television, and the technical advance which made it possible to receive and transmit simultaneousely on the same instrument, private live came to an end. Every citizen could be kept for twenty-four hours a day under the eyes of the police. The possiblity of enforcing not only complete obedience to the will of the state, but complete uniformity of opinion on all subjects now existed." This is exatly what the neoconservative nondemocraticly elected Bush-Adminstration is going to do with all of us if they are not stopped before.

 

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marcosolo, 9. Mai 2003 um 20:52:53 MESZ

SILENCING THE CRITICS

PM tried to cut funds to NGOs

Foreign Ministry turned him down

Mongkol Bangprapa

The Thaksin Shinawatra government once asked the Foreign Ministry to have overseas non-government organisations stop funding dissident NGOs in Thailand but the ministry simply turned down the directive.

According to documents from the ministry, the request came in 2001 when the Anti-Money Laundering Office was examining the assets of NGO representatives and newspaper executives and the government was blaming NGOs for unsuccessful negotiations on the Pak Moon dam issue.

Later there were measures to destabilise NGOs in Thailand including visa bans on foreign NGO staff working in Thailand and an order for provincial governors to monitor NGOs in their respective areas.

According to a memorandum of Laksanachantara Laohapan, then director-general of the International Organisations Department, Lt-Gen Preecha Wanarat, deputy secretary-general to the prime minister, met her on Nov 2, 2001, to pass on the directive under which the Foreign Ministry was asked to have Thai embassies convince overseas NGOs to cut their sponsorship for local ones.

Targeted were the Assembly of the Poor, the NGOs handling problems concerning the Pak Moon dam and the Thai Volunteer Service.

Vikrom Khumpairote, then the ministry's acting permanent secretary, said such a step could shake Thailand's image as affected NGOs might raise the issue at international forums.

 

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